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How We Can Truly Know in Life


Interview

In this extensive interview Roy Posner, President of Growth Online, considers how we can truly understand and know things from their full and widest truth, instead of the normal state of very partial and limited knowledge, which is the source of the normal state of human Ignorance. Leant how to discover the depths within from which we can begin to have descents of knowledge in no time, abridging weeks or months of effort into mere seconds. In this way you overcome limits of space and time, enabling instantaneous miraculousness!

If you are a researcher, a scientist, a programmer, a consultant, an inventor, a trainer, or are in any way working with facts and information from which you need to derive insight and ultimate knowledge and truth, we believe you will find this article of considerable value. We hope Sherlock Holmes would approve! Created July 2002, updated July 2003.

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1. Conception, Perception, Sensation, and Beyond


Growth Online: Roy, welcome to the Interview Series again.

RP: I am always happy to be here, and share some insight and knowledge with our audience.

Growth Online: Ok, so how do we truly know things in life?

RP: Let me relate to you something that happened to me that can help us begin to address this question.

This morning, when I woke up, I heard the sounds of ducks outside. It was a very pleasant way to awake. Then immediately after the experience the first thing I thought of was the fact that a friend of mine had earlier told me that she had heard ducks in the morning as well, and for me to listen for them in the future. When I heard her say this what entered my mind at the time was a thought that "ducks could be heard in the morning." I believed her, even if it wasn't my own personal experience. So this morning when I actually heard the ducks the idea that she expressed to my mind had now become a living reality for me. The hearing of the ducks had moved the idea from being a concept to a lived experience.

I tell this little story to illustrate how we normally know things in life. In essence, we know things at three levels -- conception, perception, and sensation. When my friend described the ducks I understood what she had said; it was a concept that I understood. Still it was only an idea, my conception of the idea. When I actually heard the ducks, experienced the reality of the idea that there were in fact ducks here in the morning, I had moved from conception of the idea to a perception and sensation, i.e. to an experience of the idea.

When we have the sensation of a fact or idea it is usually far more powerful than mere mental conception of it. When we perceive and experience the fact, the knowledge moves from being an idea to it being a true idea in our minds that have been sanctioned by our experiences. At that point we have fully embraced the veracity and the living reality of the idea, the truth of the idea that the ducks were here in the morning.

Growth Online: So why is that important?

RP: Well it tells us something about the way we learn. If I tell one of my students that such and such a fact or idea is true, they accept it. If one of those students then calls out and tells me that she has actually experienced this idea in her work, and describes the idea in terms of this experience, then it is clear that she has more fully grasped the idea because it is a living reality for her.

It's like the difference between the individual in the university who is studying excavation techniques, and the individual working out in the field doing excavation at a real work site. Or, the difference between learning how to be a salesperson, and selling out in the marketplace utilizing the idea and techniques learned. One is idea as concept, the other is experience of the idea as perception and sensation.

So, as you ask, why then is this important? Well if you want to measure whether you really know or understand something, it is likely that if you have some sort of experience of it, then you truly know it. For example, my teacher often refrains from giving me too much information on a subject because he knows that at some point I must experience the idea as a lived reality for me to truly know it. It is when the idea has moved from a concept to a perception, and better still to a sensation that I will know it in its multi-faceted truth and an integrated experience and realization of the thing. Actually when I experience it as perception and sensation I will see it in ways that could never even have been explained by my teacher.

Growth Online: You mention these three things -- conception, perception, and sensation. I don’t get the specific differences between the three.

RP: Well, you will only know the differences when you actually experience them! (laughter)

To answer your question, lets return to the duck incident. When my friend told me about the ducks appearing in the morning, I had a conception of that idea in my mind. If, in my mind, I had remembered a similar experience, say involving other birds appearing in the morning, then the thought may then move from conception to a perception; that I perceived what she had said as a perception of prior experience. However, when I actually experienced the sound of the ducks, the idea she expressed to me had become a living sensation that I experienced through my sense of hearing.

Another way of explaining the difference between conception, perception, and sensation is to equate them to the makeup of the human being. What does a person consist of? A human essentially consists of a mind, a vital/emotional component, and a physical body. In terms of our inquiry into the nature of true knowledge we can say that I have the conception of an idea with my mind; I have perception of the ideas through my vital, i.e. in my feelings, emotions, sentiments, and psychological status; and I have sensation of the idea through my physical body, including my five senses.

So if we take the duck incident we can say that I understood the idea as originally presented through my mind; and sensed it more fully when I actually had the experience of it as sensation in my body via my sense of hearing.

So to truly understand and know an idea, one must have more than the mental conception of it, but it must move to the perception of the vital, and, ultimately, to the sensation of the body. In my duck incident it went straight to the experience in the body, where the ultimate understanding of the idea takes shape.

This suggests that not only the mind must know a thing or object of inquiry, but that the vital and the body must also "know" to have true knowledge of the idea, to truly know the object of knowledge. And when the body fully “knows” the knowledge, the idea, the skill is fully absorbed into the being.



Growth Online: Does that mean that we have to actually experience everything we learn?

RP: Well to truly know it yes; otherwise the idea is just a concept, not a living truth. On the other hand, consider education. It fills us up with conceptual knowledge, and in that way gets us off to a fast start in life. It brings us the ideas of the past into the present so that we can more easily negotiate the future. Of course, we still have to have the experience, the perception and sensation of those ideas in the field of life for the ideas we learn to be really real to us. Though education doesn't normally give us the experience of ideas, it is still an extremely valuable institution that society has provided us for giving ideas as conception. For example, it's better to first learn that a heavy boulder will role down a steep incline than having it roll over us while we are in the field testing out the theory!

So conceptual knowledge is very valuable. Perhaps the best education we can get can also provide perceptual and sensational experiences as well. I know that a number of specialty schools are giving people a lot of hands-on experiences to test the veracity of the ideas that student learn. It is the “lab of knowledge.” Some schools even have their students working out in the field at companies testing out their knowledge, even as they learn the basic concepts and ideas in school.

Growth Online: So conception of ideas, such as we get through education or learning anything for that matter, will always be useful, even before we have the perceptual and sensational experience.

RP: Yes, provided that people want to think and absorb new ideas in the first place!

After all there are different types of people, and each type of person responds to concepts, to ideas in different ways. For example, in our research we have come to see that there are three general types of individuals; those who are physical in nature, those who are vital and emotional, and those whose consciousness is centered in their minds, who are mental.

Physical people are generally the least developed types. They tend to be not very bright. They learn only by doing and experiencing things, rather than learning and thinking about things first. To teach such a person concepts and ideas is a difficult task, if not impossible. They can only "learn" by doing something; he can only know through sensational experience.

The physical person starts from the end of the process. He has sensation, but not conception and perception. He learns by doing, not by first having the consciousness of knowing. The problem with this approach is that it could take a lifetime to learn even a few ideas since we would have to wait for him to first experience it in his life. At least with mind there is a plethora of ideas in ones head as conception, and then one can move the ideas to experience. The physical man has an empty head, knows a thing only when he does it, may never do it, thus may never know new things or become aware of new things, and thus his potential for accomplishment is severely limited.

Then there is the emotional person. He will learn, he will think, but only if he feels like it or he is energized to want to take in ideas. It's an iffy proposition whether this person is up to absorbing ideas. A feeling person is totally unpredictable. His abilities to accomplish are also severely limited because he is restricted by his unpredictable emotions, though he is not as hopeless a case as the physical man.

By the way this is the type of individual in a classroom setting who only learns through examples. He can never apprehend concepts directly as ideas. He only learns through practical examples in life provided by the instructor. There’s nothing wrong with this; it’s just that his capacity to absorb knowledge is delimited to his life experience. He cannot know the thing directly through mind. Thus he gathers less conceptual knowledge in any given time, then the person who can draw on concepts directly through mind, let alone even faster through the capacities of silence, vision, and intuition of higher spiritual mind.

And then of course there is the most developed person in terms of knowledge in terms of his potential to accomplish and succeed in life; the mental person. This individual has the ability to grasp ideas before he has experienced them. He can know the idea as a conceptual thought. By developing so many ideas he has a far vaster ability to take his conceptual understanding to experience as perception and sensation. He has a much greater ability to truly know the true truths of life, and therefore to accomplish and succeed in life.

So this points up the importance of education and learning in society; in terms of the absorption of knowledge as concepts of ideas. The physical-type husk of a man is never going to achieve significantly because there is no conception. A person who is being educated is rapidly absorbing new ideas, which can be fully absorbed and applied through his experience in his life in the future. Furthermore, because he can also extrapolate new ideas based on his experiences, he can achieve exponentially beyond the physical man so long as he is motivated to act.

Remember the point here is that the more we experience the idea, the more we truly know it. And by truly knowing it, we have more knowledge in life, which gives us more ammunition to accomplish and succeed. That's the whole purpose for this discussion; why true knowledge of an idea born of experience is something valuable, something we should aim for in life. It can make you very successful; or make you very rich; it will help you succeed in life beyond your wildest dreams.

Consider this example: When you need to walk across the street, the body has the knowledge and the skill to do so. It is integrated into the being. It is the knowledge of the idea of getting to the other side fully embedded in the body, where the mind doesn’t have to think. We all pretty much have this. However, in most of life it is very different. E.g. if I want to be a successful businessperson, I can just do it in the field and hope for the best. In other words you’re starting at the physical level which is not the right approach, which takes you in circles, whereas if you studied the subject in the first place, i.e. use mind to organize your pursuit of business success, the road to success will be much shorter and sweeter.

Still you won’t have the method for success unless you have the experience of it. Only when you have the perception and sensation of it can you say you truly know the path to business success. Now let’s say you did something else for awhile, and forget about business. Then let’s say a couple of years later you have to start from scratch again to create another business success. You can now go out and do it without much planning and direction because in essence it is now an acquired skill whose knowledge is in the body. You can just do it without too much thought and learning, and have a very good chance for great success. It is there as an embodied skill in the body ready for the taking.

Growth Online: So embodied knowledge when applied leads to great success.

RP: Yes, precisely. Little thought is needed, because the thought is now a skill in the body. That is, the body simply knows what to do, and then you simply go out and do it, like walking or eating or crossing the street.

Growth Online: And studying a thing and embodying the knowledge is not enough. Doing also matters.

RP: Yes, to accomplish in life, the knowledge that has become a skill must be applied in the acts of life.

(pause) still it is necessary the process from conception to perception to sensation to embody the skill in the first place. For any new idea that arises that interests you, you first need to understand it as concept and then hopefully life will give you the opportunity to truly know the idea as experience, even realized experience, which we call the skill that is stored in the body.

So whenever we pursue some new idea, something new in life that presents itself, it would be helpful to start at the beginning, at the level of mental thought. As mental beings we should begin by considering the thing, understanding it first, and then we should fully know it by experience it to the point that it becomes a skill in the body. The next stage is to use that skill to accomplish greatly in life.

Obviously if you are a mental-type person, you will begin at the right place.

Growth Online: So your suggesting that the mental-type person would be at a great advantage in this process.

RP: Yes, of course. It gives him the enormous potential head start over the physical person, even the emotional person. He begins the process in the mind which has the greatest potential of knowing what is out there and possible. For example, when I go on the Internet I can acquire great mental knowledge of the possibilities available to me of what’s out there as potential. Imagine having to know a thing only when I feel like knowing it, which is how you would learn if the vital part of your being was in the lead. Knowing and acquiring knowledge in life would become an erratic unfolding. Or worse imagine actually having to go to each company’s physical headquarters on my two feet to understand what services they offer if my physical consciousness was leading my being. It would take lifetimes to know any substantial bit of knowledge from this physical approach to things.

The Internet provides a system of mental knowledge, of mental access to this knowledge that enables me to enormously expand my horizons. The mental-type person who uses such a vast mental-serving organizational tool like the Internet is way up on his peers as a staring point of success. He knows so much of what is out there, of what can be done, of what can be known, and what can be achieved.

It is the same with ideas. Say on the Internet he is trying to learn a concept. The Internet will help him in the sense that he can get at it quickly. Also, it will help him cross-reference information. Still he needs to exercise his mind to learn, and then he will only truly know the thing when he experiences it in the field, and embodies it as a learned skill. Then this skill in the body he can easily teach others, without having to think much about it; or he can accomplish it in life without hardly a struggle, since the skills are now just there instinctively in him.

So our goal is to move an idea to a skill in the body which can enable an individual to accomplish much more in life. The more of such skills, i.e. the application of the idea as second-nature skill, the more he can succeed.

Education will help here. Experience will help here. Aspiration to learn will help, as will aspiration to truly understand a thing through experience in life. He is the individual who takes a concept and wishes to turn it into a living reality of achievement in life. This is the process of accomplishment of an idea, of knowledge.

Growth Online: On the other hand, he may have the knowledge as skill, but he might never act on it!

RP: Yes, so very true! Indeed, the application of, the accomplishment of something related to that knowledge-as-skill can be severely limited by his character. If the mental person does not have a developed emotional sense, a great will, a driving energy, or has a lethargic, listless, unchanging body and physical consciousness, the ideas he has conceived, perceived, embodied and turned into a skill of the body may never turn into a lived reality. The skill will remain their in his body unused.

Growth Online: So the issue has now really changed from whether one has the true knowledge integrated into his being as skill, to whether he has the character to act on it.

RP: Yes, we are now moving from the issue of full knowing of an idea and concept as skill or even further as something to be accomplished in life, to the individual’s character and capacities.

The more developed a person’s character is, the more likely he will be able to embody skill and accomplish something related to it in life. The more he is organized, the more he is self-directed, the more he has ambition toward that which he wants to achieve, the more he is invigorated and has the will to see things carried out in his life, the more he is likely to achieve.

This is what we call the “organization” of the person. The more his being is organized, the more he has created the efficiency in life to accomplish.

Growth Online: Efficiency in life?

RP: Yes, one’s efficiency is one’s capacities to create the greatest results in the shortest period of time with the least effort. If his being is organized into its greatest efficiency. i.e. his capacities and character are optimized by shedding all of the negative propensities and accentuating the positive ones, then he will be able to accomplish greatly. He will be able to take the idea that he has been aspiring to know, that has now matured into an embodied skill, and run with it to the top of his field, to perhaps become the greatest genius or success in his field in his generation.

So one's ability to have a fuller, integral knowledge of an idea relates to the consciousness of the individual; to his level of aspiration, direction, will, and organization for accomplishment.

(pause) I am always amazed when an idea that I have learned as concept takes root as an experience in my emotions and body. Then it becomes so real to me! That in turn makes me happy because I really know the true truth expressed in the idea! Then if I can utilize it in life to accomplish at a higher level, and it creates great results, I experience an even greater delight and joy of being!

Growth Online: So fully embodying an idea as an acquired skill and then applying it in one’s field not only creates great success but it makes you joyful to boot?

RP: Yes! And this is so important!

What is this? This joy and delight is really the delight of discovery in life, discovery of something new, of something you did not know or experience before.

Did you know that such a delight in discovering something is why we are here on earth?

Growth Online: Why is that so?

RP: The Divine manifest this universe so the forms in the universe, and we as the highest forms, evolve and discover something higher in our lives. And when we discover that something higher, we take great delight in that discovery. In other words, the Divine wanted us to have that experience; and so the universe, forms, and we humans were created for that very purpose. When we experience delight, such as when we discover any aspect of our higher nature, such as a new success, a new feeling, or, as in this case when we know an idea in its utter fullness as skill or if we use it to accomplish in life, we, in essence, fulfill the Divine's purpose in manifesting the universe; delight and Joy of being.

So when I embody an idea as a skill it creates a great joy in the discovery. If I then apply it in my life, it creates results that bring even greater joy and delight.

And this joy and delight of discovery releases in turn a great energy in us; mental energy in our minds, vital energy in our emotions, and physical energy in our bodies. This new found energy can then be channeled and utilized to take us to even higher vistas in life.

Growth Online: Do you have a practical example that can illustrate this?

RP: Yes, take the phenomenon of "life response." We discuss it endlessly at Growth Online. You change something in yourself, such as a limiting attitude or a reluctance or raise your level of orderliness and cleanliness, and boom, life suddenly, abundantly, and miraculously responds positively in kind; from seemingly out of nowhere; defying all of our normal rules of logic, of cause and effect, of time and space.

Now I can explain the marvel of this phenomenon, this idea of life response to you, and you may intently listen; I may peek your curiosity. Still initially what you have heard from me is for the most part just a concept in your mind. However when in the field you have the experience of life response -- say because you changed an attitude and suddenly you got a check in the mail form out of nowhere, or new abundant work came to you from out of nowhere five minutes later -- you have moved from the conception of the idea of life response to the sensational experience of it. That experience in turns gives you great joy and delight. For one, because getting the new benefits of sudden money, or sudden and abundant work gives joy; and two, because you are busting out with joy at the pleasure of experiencing something that seems miraculous in its workings. The discovery, which is a product of your moving a step to your higher nature, has made you feel an intense joy and delight. That in turn releases a great amount of energy in you; it energises and motivates you to take things further, such as a desire to learn more about life response, or the hidden secrets, mysteries, and powers of the inner life, and so forth. Perhaps it will even give you a new perspective of life; setting you on a whole new course of personal growth in your life.

You can then take it a step further. If life response becomes a knowledge that becomes a skill of the body for you for acting and accomplishing in life, then you can constantly be invoking life response without thinking about it much because you have the embodied skills to be constantly releasing it. For example, when in a life situation I instinctively know that I need to raise my attitudes in that moment to invoke positive life responses, or if I instinctively need to let go of a reluctance which can also release a sudden positive response from life, then through these amazing results and experiences, I have endless delight of being. The skill is there always in the body ready to be triggered as life requires it, without much intervention of thought.

Once life response becomes an embodied realization, i.e. a skill, I will constantly be invoking it whenever the right situations arise that require the right behaviors on my part to improve the situation which will cause life to automatically respond to my changed behavior. This will enable endless miraculous results, and therefore endless discovery, and joy and delight of being.

(pause) So when a concept moves from conception to perception to sensation, and further to fully embodied sensation, which is realization, we truly know. And true knowing is integral knowledge of the idea, which is accompanied by our ecstatic delight of being. When it is embodied as skill and then acted on in life through our higher capacities, character, and consciousness, it can enable a vast success that leads to endless joy and delight.

Growth Online: Is this the big point that you are trying to make here?

RP: (pause) Maybe in the end what I am saying is that if we really want to know a thing and discover this Delight of being, we should aspire for, hunger for the experience and realization of it, and apply that skill in the body in all aspects of our lives. If we offer that aspiration -- to know something as a skill and act on it in life so it brings endless accomplishment and its corresponding delight of being -- as an offering and prayer to the universal Spirit, then I think life will respond to us and present us with opportunities to learn great new ideas and principles, embody them, and apply them to endless success and joy in the vast fields of life.

 

2. Insight


Growth Online: I'd like to raise a different sort of question. How can we know if what we know is truly right and correct. I mean we can have the sensation of an idea, but how do we know if our perception of the ideas is correct and true in the first place?

RP: Yes, one can have a partial, or one-sided perception of a truth that is not the full and whole truth, and yet you are ferociously attached to it. Religious fundamentalists are prime examples. Or we may simply know a thing and it can be completely false to begin with.

Growth Online: Yes, how do we know if the idea, that is the object of knowledge, is right and true in the first place?

RP: Yes, this is a great subject of inquiry.

(pause) Let's start with something familiar. Most of us have read or watched a scene of the fictional character Sherlock Holmes, the great English detective created by Arthur Conan Doyle. Let's consider how he solves his cases.

What Holmes is perhaps most famous for is his ability to draw out a plethora of conclusions from the smallest, the most obscure details. For example, in one episode he sees a young man's pocket watch, which the young man merely perceives as an old watch handed down from his father. The boy cherishes this valuable, and when Holmes asks him to tell him something about the watch, the boy says that it's just a watch and that Holmes shouldn't make a big deal about it. The boy puts it in his pocket, with no interest in discussing it further. Holmes however insists on the boy taking out the watch again, which he does, after which Holmes begins to explain many details about it. He says that some of the nicks on the timepiece indicate the boy's father was poor because he had to carry lots of pocket change, which caused the nicks. He also notices that it was severely bruised in places, indicating that the father must have suffered from mental dementia! And so forth. Understandably, the boy is outraged that Holmes knows so many intimate details about his father; and becomes extremely distraught and agitated, and charges Holmes with spying on him! Holmes, of course, had never known anything about the father, and had never seen the timepiece before. He just had the extraordinary ability to see so many details in something so ordinary; to see significance in the insignificant.

Perhaps Holmes greatest genius however was his ability to observe a situation, see it from its myriad of sides and subtleties, and from this cornucopia of details was able draw them together and come up with an integral analysis of the situation. In other words, the many-sided plethora of details of the objects of inquiry enables him to gain deeper insight into the case. From there it is then perhaps a mere formality for Holmes to come up with the final solution to the puzzle.

It should also be pointed out that Holmes at all points along the way is completely objective in his pursuit of truth. He keeps all emotions at bay, making his research an exercise of true objectivity. In that way he has married the many-sided plethora of details to an scrupulous mental objectivity. This enables his true insight to emerge in the case.

Growth Online: So a many-sided and objective analysis is the cornerstone of one's insight into what is right and true?

RP: Yes, exactly right my dear Holmes!

RP: (pause) Recently my associates and I have been reading a number of books on Indian and US history in order to understand certain facts that can give us the insight that will enable us to offer others suggestions that can foster greater economic and social development for India, the US, and other countries. In our research we tend to admire that one author who can look at a situation from many sides, who has the ability to bring out the true truth, the many-sided truth behind the facts and events.

For example, in one book that covers Indian history just after its independence in 1947, the author examines the lives of the political leaders of the time, including Nehru. Rather than saying Nehru was good or he was bad, he is able to paint a picture of his varied strengths and weaknesses; of his right actions and wrong actions. The author does not bring subjective predisposition to his effort. He does not have an untoward positive or negative disposition to the individuals in the book such as Nehru. He is in fact scrupulous in his objectivity; having the mind of the researcher and reporter to get at all the details, from a myriad of perspectives. As a result of this total view, the author has developed extraordinary insight into the situation, which we can perhaps call an integral knowledge of the facts, which inevitably engenders insight.

Now this sounds an awful lot like the methods employed by that indomitable detective Sherlock Holmes!

Despite its many limitations, our minds do have this capacity of insight. By turning aside one's prejudicial subjectivity, and making the full, unfettered effort at objectivity, at an objective effort to get the many-sided facts, one arrives at understanding and then bursts of insight. Sherlock Holmes was able to do this because that multi-sided detail-orientation and scrupulous objectivity was there in his mind. Also, there was that personal intensity of effort and perseverance that was there in his character, which is also a valuable aid in developing insight, especially so for a detective. And then there was one final and great part of his character; he didn't care a jot about what the society around him thought, including the local detectives, because he viewed society as completely prejudiced in its outlook to begin with. And he was certainly correct about that!

So the writer of historical information, or of any inquiry of research or discovery that one might be engaged in, can similarly develop such insight; and with a little extra in his character and capacities, with a little extra effort and determination, become a genius in his field. If you want to become a true expert, a genius in your field, then look at the object of inquiry from every conceivable perspective, without any prejudice; be unscrupulously objective; not care about what society says, and pursue your interests with great interest and intensity. Great insights will emerge, putting you far ahead of the game, far ahead of your peers or rivals or associates, enabling you to be a true leader in your field; enabling you to accomplish beyond your wildest expectations and dreams.

Growth Online: But still, is insight the real truth; the true truth that we are looking for?

RP: Yes, that is the next question.

(pause) Insights are the foundations of truth; not the true, full, integral truth of the thing. Truth is the true integral knowledge of the object of inquiry that is born of the building blocks of insight. Or, to put it in terms of Holmes, the truths are the final conclusions that Holmes must come to in the case that enables him to solve it. They are the ultimate outcomes, born of the insights that he has gained through his objective, unflagging multi-sided analysis. From these insights he is at some point able to organize them in some fashion that enables him to come to the conclusions of truth that solve the case.

Growth Online: So how do we go from insight to ultimate truth, as Holmes must do as detective; or, in the case of the writer of history, to the deeper, final conclusions?

RP: Well, as it turns out, Holmes does come to ultimate truths from out of these insights; while our writer struggles, and does not really come up with the ultimate, deeper truths the ultimate insights. Why is this the case?

Which brings us to the real issue; which is the limitation of mind.

Growth Online:  Limitations of mind?

RP: Normal mind, what we call "mind proper," is pretty good at fact gathering. It also has the ability to develop insights from those facts. However, it generally fails at discovering the greater, true truths; the unmasking and revealing of any great, ultimate truths and conclusions about the object of inquiry.

So the question that intrigues us is this: How does Holmes get from his insights to those final conclusions that give him the solution to the case? I believe that his insights are so fully developed that the solution to the case just pop into his mind; they descend into his being as intuitions of the ultimate truths, the ultimate solutions of the case.

 

3. Intuitive Knowledge and Beyond


Growth Online: So how do we accomplish this? How do we get so many insights about something that they one day blossom as some sort of revelation, as you suggest?

RP: Well to begin with we need to change what influences our thinking. We need to move our center of consciousness from what we call the sense-based mind to a higher status of mind, where we are using the more logical, rational parts. From that higher rational, conceptual status of mind we are more objective, more likely to see the varied sides of a truth, which enable us to get at most of the facts that lead to unending insights. This is a given, that Holmes and the historical writer have in spades. The center of their thinking processes is not rooted in their emotions, their feelings, their ego, their reaction to the demands of society. They are focused on facts, no matter how out of the ordinary they may be. When we rise in our consciousness to this higher level of mind, of rational mind, of pure thought, we are more open to the facts that enable insight to occur.

Growth Online: So you are saying that most of us don't live in this rational mind.

RP: Yes, and it's mostly because people are centered in their lower vital consciousness of need and desires and attachments; of strong opinions, judgments, and negative attitudes. When we think from such a poise, we are filtering out many of the objectives facts that don't meet these vital standards, or we are twisting the incoming information to suit our ego-centered, prejudiced outlook. How can we ever think rationally if our lives are covered over by this veneer of subjective prejudice!

And these limitations apply even to the "thinkers" out there; to the pundits, the scientists, and other lesser and greater thinkers of our time. They think they are objective, but they have a subjective, prejudicial view of the subjects they are addressing. They surely need to study and emulate the many-sided rationality and objectivity of a Sherlock Holmes.

Let me give you an example to illustrate this. Today I opened the local newspaper, and there I saw a syndicated columnist writing about the high cost of home prices in Silicon Valley compared to prices elsewhere in the US. He focused on one particular cause of the problem. In of itself his understanding had some merit. But then one could think of at least ten other causes that were equally valid. When I got to the end of the article I perceived his true stripes, when he asserted that it's solely because of government intrusion that the problem exists; which expresses in essence his own prejudiced subjective sentiment behind his conclusion in the first place.

So this intelligent gentleman, because of his limiting beliefs and ideology, which you can call his limiting sentiments, has come to a single cause for the problem, when a dozen are clearly visible. His sentiment has tinged his mental objectivity, and has landed him in the subjectivity of a single cause. Rather than having the insight of a multi-faceted objective understanding, he has constricted his thought to a single point, and has made that single point the whole truth.

That is exactly how the mind works in miniature! The mind accepts one truth out of all truths, and asserts that truth as the whole. And that’s because our minds are normally rooted in the prejudicial nature of the vital consciousness, which asserts its separateness, its ego, and, therefore, its prejudicial predilection to the facts. It's no wonder why we all live our lives in utter ignorance and falsehood! That has to change! Without a change towards objectivity, rationality, and an openness to a many-sided view, it is utterly hopeless!

Growth Online: So our sentiments cloud a rational mind.

RP: Indeed. Our prejudiced sentiments are rooted in our limited experiences and our false emotional attitudes. And on top of these we build our false sentiments, values, and ideals. How is truth supposed to emerge from out of such a morass?

Holmes would cringe at this writer's conclusions, and would surely sense the subjectivity through which the writer comes to his conclusions. In many Holmes episodes we see instances where the people around him, in particular the know-it-all inspectors, come up with false conclusions, rooted either in their lack of effort to find out the whole truth, or simply their built in social bias and prejudice. It's no wonder that they are always a step behind Holmes in solving the case!

And what of us? We are all hapless inspectors!! Lazy to discover all of the truth; blinded by our strong opinions, negative attitudes, and prejudiced sentiments and values; and led astray by an ignorant and false society around us that we coddle to and defer to. So in this, our supposed new emerging world of knowledge, we are perpetually ignorant!

Growth Online: So we're all to blame for our ignorance?

RP: Well, it's mind's fault. Or, rather it's the fact that we live in our emotions. Or, if we are centered in our minds, we live in the lower, sense-bound, prejudiced part of mind, instead of the rational, logical, conceptual higher part of mind, where emotions, judgments, and sentiments are in balance with pure objective logic and thinking.

Growth Online: So how do we solve this problem?

RP: The problem is that we live on the surface of life. We are too outer, reacting to everything around us. From such a poise we are constantly reacting, rather than being rooted in calm and silence and peace. When we live on the surface of life, our bodily ego is constantly asserting itself. That sense of “I”, of “me” is out front, creating a separateness that disengages us from the totality and wholeness of what is happening around us. When we live too close to the surface of life we see things through the haze of our own needs, our own wants, our own prejudices and inclinations; not the full, moment-to-moment emerging true truths, multi-sided truths around us.

When we live this way mind absorbs the facts around us only through this negative filtering mechanism. Truths that do not meet the condition of "me" are filtered out; and we are left with a very partial truth out of the whole truth. Even the truths that make it through are likely to be tinged with their own error and falsehood.

You can extend this to other aspects of life -- to the acts we engage in; to events, projects, interactions, communications, and so forth. In all cases we are ignorant of the totality of facts, prejudiced to include only certain facts; and limited in our ability to gain true insight of the situation, which can only come from a many-sided understanding of the full truth.

(pause) And yet, as you ask, how do we solve the problem? The only way out of the problem is to go within.

Growth Online: Within?

RP: Yes. We must somehow shift our center of consciousness so that we can live more often in the objectivity of this higher rational mind.

Growth Online: How do we do this?

RP: By going deeper within, into our deeper consciousness will enable can help us move from our sense-based mind -- rooted in our feelings, emotions, judgments, and prejudices -- to the higher part of mind proper, where we see things objectively and rationally; where we engage in pure rational thought, rather than emotional thought. From that inner poise and status we can see the abundant myriad of facts around us, which in their multiplicity and variety lend themselves to insights. And from insights we can have integral insights and illuminations and intuitions that lead to ever greater conclusions, until we reach what we call the "integral knowledge and understanding" that Holmes seemed to have had at the end of every case.

When we live in our deeper self, in our inner consciousness, we move away from the noise of the outer world; from the surface pushing and pulling of life. When we live on the surface we tend to get pulled into our ego-sense, into our assertiveness, where we are lodged in "me," instead of the depths where we move away from "me," and emerge in "us."

The state of "us" is when we are one with the environment around us; to the needs and will and thoughts of people around us; to the myriad of facts and circumstances that are unfolding around us. From this inner orientation, we withdraw from sense-mind, and the cooler, rational, objective mind of pure thought emerges. It is a step toward the ultimate spiritual perceptions of life.

Growth Online: Does this suggest then that Holmes participated in some sort of calming discipline like meditation?

RP: I don't know; I don't think so. He just was an evolved personality, who was centered in his rationality and pure thinking. It was just there in his nature. On the other hand, it is true that we could all use a discipline of some sort to move us from the surface of life to the depths within; where we can more easily see the world in its multiplicity and true unfolding.

Living in the depths enables clear thinking, insight, and ultimately reveals the final truths or the whole truth that we are seeking. When we live in the depths of our being we begin to see the emergence of a way of thinking that is even beyond rational, pure thought. It is where we begin to enter the realm of spiritual mind.

Growth Online: Spiritual mind?

RP: Spiritual mind is the realm of consciousness beyond sense-based mind, and even beyond the rational mind that I have just spoken so glowingly about. It is the mind of light, of illumination, of vision, and ultimately of intuition. When we live in our deeper consciousness, even down to our deepest soul level, we begin to experience knowledge in new ways. From spiritual mind knowledge comes as sudden sparks of light, as in the famous expression "Eureka, I've got it." Or it comes as inner visions, or, as direct descents of intuitions of knowledge, where the object of knowledge that we are trying to know simply drops into and appears in our minds! If I want to know something, I just know it, as it descends into my brain from somewhere in the universe; perhaps from the universal mind.

I believe that Holmes could have had such experiences of higher, spiritual mind. When he comes to his great final conclusions, they seem to come like descents of light or intuitions that give him the final truth he is seeking to solve the case. And yet it should be pointed out that such spiritual-like experiences normally come only after one has done his fact gathering that coagulate into understanding and then insights. Born of the many-sided facts and the understanding and insights he has gotten from those facts, there is the real possibility of a descent from higher, spiritual mind providing him the all-encompassing, integral knowledge and truth of the situation; the ultimate true truth that is the final, all-determining missing piece of the puzzle.

Growth Online: Roy, where did you learn about such things?

RP: The great Indian seer Sri Aurobindo explains that there are levels of spiritual mind beyond our normal minds; beyond mind proper. That there is an ascending scale of mentality that starts with the lower fact-gathering and sense-based mind; that rises higher to that part of mind that expresses sentiments and values; rises higher still to the rational, objective pure mind that we have been discussing; and then finally breaks through to the spiritual dimension of mind, to spiritual mind.

It is in spiritual mind that we have experiences of light, of illumination, of vision, and intuition. It is in these realms that the object of knowledge that we pursue simply drops into our minds without the hard thought-churning processes of mind proper. From these levels of mind we simply know that which we need to know. When we have the intuition, then the information, the object of knowledge we wish to know, enters our mind in full, with all of its details, or its key details.

Have you ever heard of such a thing? It is a marvel! Sri Aurobindo had this experience constantly, and expressed them in his abundant writings; in the processes and principles of life and creation that he gave to the world.

Growth Online: This is fascinating!

(pause) Still I am trying to fathom what this all means; how it can help us.

RP: Yes, what can we conclude from all this?

(pause) One is that the more we are open to the multi-sided facts around us, through our true objectivity of these facts, the more we are able to gain insight from those facts. Second, the deeper we live in our consciousness within, the more likely we are able to be objective in the first place, to be open to all the facts, which in turn gives us the many-sided view, and which inevitably leads to understanding and insights of those facts. Third, the more insight we have, the more the chance of spiritual experience of mind such as illuminations, intuitions, and revelations of knowledge, which enables one to acquire a multi-faceted, multi-dimensional integral knowledge. And fourth, the more we live deep within, the more we open the portals of spiritual mind on an ongoing basis.

Which means that if we want to be great accomplishers in life, very successful people, bright stars and geniuses in our field, then we must be objective, live deep within, and have our insights coagulate into illumined and intuitive descents of ultimate knowledge and truths. The key I believe is to live within, deep within, away from our egos, from the surface, closer to our true self. From there we establish the calm basis that enables objectivity, and the possibility of descents of knowledge from the spiritual domains of mind, of intuitions of knowledge from spiritual mind.

Growth Online: So are you suggesting that Holmes was centered in spiritual mind?

RP: It is hard to say, but if I were to venture a guess, I would say yes, at least to a certain degree.

Throughout the Growth Online site we have explained these various levels of spiritual mind, and how we can learn to open to them. In a recent interview [The Future Evolution and Collective Life on Earth] I discussed this at great length, even suggesting that our evolutionary destiny was to fully incorporate these levels of spiritual mind in our daily routines and activities.

Beyond that I also suggest that there is an ultimate mind, which Sri Aurobindo called "supermind," or the supramental truth consciousness.

Growth Online: Supermind?

RP: Yes, it is the ultimate plane of mind-related consciousness that a human can rise to. In terms of knowledge it is the ultimate connection to full truth that one can have.

Supermind is very hard to explain. It is even beyond intuition, which itself is not easy to explain, but easy to understand once one has the experience of it.

Growth Online: So can you make a little attempt at explaining supermind for our audience?

RP: (pause) Well, let's say that there's something I want to know, such as the solution to a case. We know sense-based mind will turn you round in circles as you are diverted by the goings on of the surface life; and we know that through objective, rational mind will get you at the facts, and perhaps enable understanding some insight, but it is not the full perception of the object of knowledge you are pursuing. Spiritual mind, above conceptive, rational mind will give you light, and perhaps intuition of part of the knowledge if you are lucky. In light we have a sense of the overall solution; in intuition we have a more complete descent of the object of knowledge. And yet in supermind the object of knowledge is simply there in us!

You see it is hard to explain; and yet it is unbelievable!

When we rise to the plane of supermind, the object of knowledge that we seek is simply in us; whereas through intuitions it descends from outside us. In supermind, when we want to know anything, including anything that we did not know before, it simply appears in our minds in total, in full. We embody a knowledge we never had before, perhaps never existed before on earth, as it just appears in our minds, it is just there within us. In that sense we seem to create it from out of nothing! And in one sense it never existed before, therefore it has the character of something dynamically new and creative. It's hard to explain, but it is simply an unbelievable way to live! And you know what; it is our future destiny to live this way!

So a supramental Holmes is a cosmic Holmes; who, when he needs to know the final conclusions, simply has it appear in his mind without thought; there in al its many-sidedness, in its wholeness, in its newly created fullness, and dynamically enabled in its total, whole, integral truth. He never has to do any research, because all of the research is there when he needs it, in his mind! He has “created” the solution from out of nowhere, from within himself. The knowledge never existed before on earth, but in the descending heavens. Can you beat that?!?

Sri Aurobindo said that the human race would live like that in perhaps 3,000 years, though, if we followed various method of transformation, we can narrow it down to 300, or even 30, or 3! Having this truth consciousness, this supramental consciousness, would then be the ultimate way to truly know. It would certainly create the greatest efficiency in life; that is, where we can know the most, with the least effort, in the shortest period of time. It would enable us transcend notions of logic, of our understanding of the limitations of space and time. We would open wide the portals of infinite accomplishment, success, and joy in life.

(pause) So we have a lot of work to do!

Most of us are at the bottom of that ascending latter of consciousness; stuck in the vital, of needs, attachments, of bad attitudes, and ego; which means that in terms of thinking we are locked in the sense-based mind. So let's get out of that morass first. Then let's move up to objective, rational mind, which we can achieve by living more within, in the depths of our being. From there let's then see if we can develop better and deeper understanding that can lead to penetrating insights into the object of our inquiry. Then we can begin to have those experiences of illuminations and intuitions of knowledge; where we begin to get the full, integral, total truth that lends itself to perfection and great accomplishment, success, and joy in life.

And for the ultimate pioneers of consciousness, they can even go onto supramental knowledge, to "truth consciousness," where we have access to all knowledge in the universe suddenly appearing inside us in full, in their ultimate, many-sided integral truth and oneness; as an object that just appears within our minds without thought; creatively new and dynamic; unprecedented, never-before-know knowledge appearing within from seemingly out of nowhere.

Such a way of knowing can open the doors to a new way of living, to enable the emergence of a new type of evolutionary individual, and a new divine collective life on earth.

 

MAIN POINTS

·          We can know things at three levels -- conception, perception, and sensation. At conception the idea is a thought, at perception it is an experienced idea, and at sensation it is an embodied idea where we know it in its fullness; where the experience has been realized in our being.  At the level of sensation the idea has become a skill that we can invoke when it is necessary. We just know it instinctively.

·          A human essentially consists of a mind, a vital/emotional component, and a physical body. In terms of our inquiry into the nature of true knowledge we can say that I have the conception of an idea with my mind; I have perception of the ideas through my vital, i.e. in my feelings, emotions, sentiments, and psychological status; and I have sensation of the idea through my physical body, including my five senses.

·          To truly understand and know an idea, one must have more than the mental conception of it, but it must move to the experienced perception of the vital, and, ultimately, to the embodied sensation of the body.

·          Conception of ideas, such as we get through education or learning anything for that matter, will always be useful, even before we have the experienced perception and the embodied sensation. Perhaps the best education we can get can also provide perceptual and sensational experiences as well.

·          If you are interested in success, then when you learn some new idea, you should aspire to know the idea in its fullness; i.e. experience the idea and then embody it in your being as a spontaneous available skill.

·          The more a person is directed and organized for achievement, i.e.  the more he is self-directed, the more he has ambition of that which he wants to achieve, the more he is invigorated and has the will to see things carried out in his life, the more he is likely to have the experiences that move him from conception to the actually vital experience and physical sensational embodiment of it. So one's ability to have a fuller, integral knowledge of a concept or idea is related to the level of consciousness of the individual.

·          When an idea has moved fully to sensation he has fully embodied, and thus realized the idea.

·          What helps us truly know in life? First, education and learning helps because it helps us learn the process of concept formulation. It also gives us a base knowledge. Second, experience of the ideas in life helps because it turns concepts into real realities for us. To fully and permanently embody these experiences is to see that idea open the gates to infinite possibilities in our lives. Finally, to be an evolved, integrated person helps because then one has the necessary attitudes, drive, will, and direction to constantly move our lives forward; in this case to move the idea we know into a realized experience.

·          Some people are physical in their consciousness, while others are emotional/vital, and others are mental. Most of us live at the vital level. A very few are centered in the mental consciousness; though more and more will be so in the coming years.

·          The physical person does not want to learn. The emotional, vital person learns only when he wants to. The mental person is always willing to learn.

·          The mental person is the fastest and most dedicated learner, and absorber of facts and ideas. Thus he is at the forefront of our evolution. [He also has the most long term impact on the development of society.]

·          The physical person starts from the end of the process. He has sensation, but not conception and perception. He learns by doing, not by first having the consciousness of knowing. The problem with this approach is that it could take a lifetime to learn even a few ideas since we would have to wait for him to first experience it in his life.

·          The emotional person will learn, think, but only if he feels like it or he is energized to want to take in ideas. A feeling person is totally unpredictable. His abilities to accomplish are also severely limited because he is restricted by his unpredictable emotions, though he is not as hopeless a case as the physical man.

·          The mental person has the ability to grasp ideas before he has experienced them. He can know the idea as a conceptual thought. By developing so many ideas he has a far vaster ability to take his conceptual understanding to experience as perception and sensation. He has a much greater ability to truly know the true truths of life, and therefore to accomplish and succeed in life.

·          To really accomplish in life the knowledge one has has to become a skill that one can apply through an act.  The more of such skills, i.e. the application of the idea as second-nature skill, the more he can succeed.

·          The more developed a person’s character is, the more likely he will be able to embody skill and accomplish something related to it in life. The more he is organized, the more he is self-directed, the more he has ambition toward that which he wants to achieve, the more he is invigorated and has the will to see things carried out in his life, the more he is likely to achieve.

·          One’s efficiency is one’s capacities to create the greatest results in the shortest period of time with the least effort.

·          Experiences occur periodically. They give a glimpse of a truth or reality. Realization is the culmination of experience or experiences. It is the full embodiment of the truth or reality.

·          By having the permanent realization of the idea, one can become a genius in his field, whether it be a particle physicist or an organic farmer. [Genius is born of being connected to the Universal, Cosmic Mind and Consciousness.]

·          To truly know something enables one to experience Delight of being.

·          Joy and delight is really the delight of discovery in life, discovery of something new, of something you did not know or experience before.

·          When one experiences delight of being, one is fulfilling the purpose for which the Divine created the universe, delight of being; i.e. for us to experience the delight through the discovery of our higher nature.

·          Joy and delight of discovery releases in turn a great energy in ourselves; mental energy in our minds, vital energy in our emotions, and physical energy in our bodies. This new found energy can then be channeled and utilized to take us to even higher vistas in life.

·          Life response is the way life abundantly, instantly, and miraculously responds positively to corresponding change of our inner and outer being; defying all rules of space and time, and logic. Aside from the main result is the experience of delight of being.

·          When a concept moves from conception to perception to sensation, and further to fully embodied sensation, which is realization, we truly know. And true knowing is integral knowledge of the idea, which is accompanied by our ecstatic delight of being. When it is embodied as skill and then acted on in life through our higher capacities, character, and consciousness, it can enable a vast success that leads to endless joy and delight.

·          How do we know if the idea, that is the object of knowledge, is right and true in the first place?

·          The gathering of the many-sided plethora of details of the objects of inquiry enables understanding and the possibility of insight to emerge. A many-sided and objective analysis is the cornerstone of one's insight into what is right and true.

·          Insights are the foundations of truth; not the true, full, integral truth of the thing.

·          By turning aside one's prejudicial subjectivity, and making the full, unfettered effort at objectivity, at an objective effort to get the many-sided facts, one arrives at understanding and then bursts of insight.

·          If you want to become a true expert, a genius in your field, then look at the object of inquiry from every conceivable perspective, without any prejudice; be unscrupulously objective; not care about what society says, and pursue your interests with great interest and intensity. Great insights will emerge, putting you far ahead of the game, far ahead of your peers or rivals or associates, enabling you to be a true leader in your field; enabling you to accomplish beyond your wildest expectations and dreams.

·          Normal mind, what we call "mind proper," is pretty good at fact gathering. It also has the ability to develop insights from those facts. However, it generally fails at discovering the greater, true truths; the unmasking and revealing of any great, ultimate truths and conclusions about the object of inquiry.

·          We need to move our center of consciousness from what we call the sense-based mind to a higher status of mind, where we are using the more logical, rational parts. From that higher rational, conceptual status of mind we are more objective, more likely to see the varied sides of a truth, which enable us to get at most of the facts that lead to unending insights. Most of us don't live in this rational mind.

·          The "thinkers, the pundits, the scientists, and others think they are objective, but they have a subjective, prejudicial view of the subjects they are addressing. Our sentiments cloud a rational mind. Our prejudiced sentiments are rooted in our limited experiences and our false emotional attitudes. And on top of these we build our false sentiments, values, and ideals.

·          People are centered in their lower vital consciousness of need and desires and attachments; of strong opinions, judgments, and negative attitudes. When we think from such a poise, we are filtering out many of the objectives facts that don't meet these vital standards, or we are twisting the incoming information to suit our ego-centered, prejudiced outlook.

·          We live on the surface of life. We are too outer, reacting to everything around us. From such a poise we are constantly reacting, rather than being rooted in calm and silence and peace. When we live on the surface of life, our bodily ego is constantly asserting itself. When we live on the surface of life, our bodily ego is constantly asserting itself. That sense of “I”, of “me” is out front, creating a separateness that disengages us from the totality and wholeness of what is happening around us. When we live too close to the surface of life we see things through a haze of our own needs, our own wants, our own prejudices and inclinations; not the full, moment-to-moment emerging true truths, multi-sided truths around us.

·          By going deeper within, into our deeper consciousness will enable can help us move from our sense-based mind -- rooted in our feelings, emotions, judgments, and prejudices -- to the higher part of mind proper, where we see things objectively and rationally; where we engage in pure rational thought, rather than emotional thought. From that inner poise and status we can see the abundant myriad of facts around us, which in their multiplicity and variety lend themselves to insights. And from insights we can have integral insights and illuminations and intuitions that lead to ever greater conclusions, until we reach what we call the "integral knowledge and understanding" that Holmes seemed to have had at the end of every case.

·          Living in the depths enables clear thinking, insight, and ultimately reveals the final truths or the whole truth that we are seeking.

·          The mind accepts one truth out of all truths, and asserts that truth as the whole. And it’s because our minds are normally rooted in the prejudicial nature of the vital consciousness, which asserts its separateness, its ego, and, therefore, its prejudicial predilection to the facts.

·          Spiritual mind is the realm of consciousness beyond sense-based mind, and even beyond the rational mind. It is the mind of light, of illumination, of vision, and ultimately of intuition.

·          The deeper we live within the more we enable such descents from the various levels of spiritual mind. Also, as we use conceptual mind to analyze gathered thoughts, we gain a greater understanding. If there is a multi-sided perception of those facts, then insight comes about. If we are centered within, then those insights will attract even greater insights as the illuminations, intuitions, and revelations of spiritual mind.

·          The great Indian seer Sri Aurobindo explains that there are levels of spiritual mind beyond our normal minds; beyond mind proper. That there is an ascending scale of mentality that starts with the lower fact-gathering and sense-based mind; that rises higher to that part of mind that expresses sentiments and values; rises higher still to the rational, objective pure mind that we have been discussing; and then finally breaks through to the spiritual dimension of mind, to spiritual mind. It is in spiritual mind that we have experiences of light, of illumination, of vision, and intuition. It is in these realms that the object of knowledge that we pursue simply drops into our minds without the hard thought-churning processes of mind proper. From these levels of mind we simply know that which we need to know. When we have the intuition, then the information, the object of knowledge we wish to know, enters our mind in full, with all of its details, or its key details.

·          The more we are open to the multi-sided facts around us, through our true objectivity of these facts, the more we are able to gain insight from those facts. Second, the deeper we live in our consciousness within, the more likely we are able to be objective in the first place, to be open to all the facts, which in turn gives us the many-sided view, and which inevitably leads to understanding and insights of those facts. Third, the more insight we have, the more the chance of spiritual experience of mind such as illuminations, intuitions, and revelations of knowledge, which enables one to acquire a multi-faceted, multi-dimensional integral knowledge. And fourth, the more we live deep within, the more we open the portals of spiritual mind on an ongoing basis.

·          If we want to be great accomplishers in life, very successful people, bright stars and geniuses in our field, then we must be objective, live deep within, and have our insights coagulate into illumined and intuitive descents of ultimate truths.

·          Beyond spiritual mind is the ultimate truth consciousness of supermind. When we rise to the plane of supermind, the object of knowledge that we seek is simply in us; whereas through intuitions it descends from outside us. In supermind, when we want to know anything, including anything that we did not know before, it simply appears in our minds in total, in full. We embody a knowledge we never had before, perhaps never existed before on earth, as it just appears in our minds, it is just there within us. In that sense we seem to create it from out of nothing! And in one sense it never existed before, therefore it has the character of something dynamically new and creative.

·          The ultimate pioneers of consciousness can go onto supramental heights rooted in this truth consciousness. Such a way of knowing can open the doors to a new way of living, to enable the emergence of a new type of evolutionary individual, and a new divine collective life on earth.

 

Additional:

On Becoming a Creative Thinker; a Genius
To become a creative thinker go into the depths of one's being, into the inner psychic, personal soul being. That will open you to the spiritual domain of mind from which intuitions of creative thinking will descend. You can take that same route to become a genius, when you open to the universal, cosmic Mind through the psychic

   

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