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The Origins and Nature of Space and Time
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 by  MSS and Roy Posner

 



Space and Time: The Universe

Space, Time, and the Universe
The universe is held by the two planes of Space and Time.

 


 

Space and Time: Extension, Movement

Space, Time, Extension, Movements Statements

Being is the Truth and Spirit of the Reality that exists before the universe and supports its existence. It is also called the Pure Existent or Sat in the East.

Space is the extension and objectification of Being/Spirit. Time is that extension in movement.

Space is the self-extension of Being/Existence in the form of constant or persistent movements that give the appearance of stable forms, in contrast to Time, which is the same self-extension of Being/Existence in the form of changing movements.

Being/Existence moves in two ways, as stable pattern of movement (space) and changing pattern of movement (time). The stable pattern appears as the backdrop for that which is changing.

Space is the self-extension of the Being/Spirit to hold its forms and objects.

Time is the Being/Spirit looking at its own movement.

Space is Being looking at itself in status. Time is Being looking at itself in movement.

Space is created at the point where a form is able, from its own unique vantage point, to perceive other forces and forms. Space then is perceived as a sense of extension from one form's perspective to another's. Time is created at the point where a form perceives one form, then another one, etc. in sequence, which generates the sense of movement in extension. The perception of movement in the extension of space is what we call time.

Time is a field of circumstances and forces meeting and working out a resultant progression whose course it measures. (Paraphrase of Sri Aurobindo)

 


 

Space and Time: Spiritual Origins

The Being is Beyond Space & Time
The Being [pure existent, spirit] is beyond Time and Space.

 

Source of Space & Time
The source of Space and Time are Being/Spirit; the infinite, timeless, spaceless Divine Reality.

 

Space, Time, and the Being
Space and time are different expressions of the Being [the Spirit, the pure Existent (Sat)].

 

Space and Time of Force, Not Being

Both space and time exist in force, not Being. [I.e. it is lacking in the pure Spirit, Being.]

 

Spirit Creates Time and Space
Spirit created subjective Time and objective space. Further, the plane of Time splits into Time and Timelessness.

 

The Original Status of Time; the Truth of Space
The original status of Time is the eternity of the Eternal. The fundamental truth of Space is the infinity of the Infinite.

 

Infinite Universe, Spirit

Scientists now know that the material universe goes on infinitely in all directions. So does the Spirit and Its Consciousness, though it is beyond physical direction or movement, as it is timeless, spaceless Being.

 


 

Space and Time: Spirit, Subject, Object

The Being is Beyond Subject-Object
The Being is beyond subjective-objective relationship.

 

Space and Time
Space is Brahman self-extended for the holding together of forms and objects. Time is Brahman self-extended for the deployment of the movement of self-power, carrying forms and objects.

 

Undifferentiated to Differentiated Existence & Birth of Space and Time
When undifferentiated existence became differentiated as formations of cosmic Real Ideas of peace, oneness, knowledge, power, love, delight, etc., where in each a subject experienced the object, e.g. a knower knowing the known, or lover loving the beloved, space and time were born.

Objectivity, Subjectivity of Space and Time
Space is the objective extension of consciousness while Time is the subjective extension. 

Origins of Spirit, Truth, Time, Space
If the self-conscious Being splits itself into Spirit and Truth subjectively, the spirit by a similar process creates subjective Time and objective space. Further, the plane of Time splits into Time and Timelessness.

Spiritual Origins of Time and Space
Space is created when the spirit looks at itself. Time is created when the spirit look at its movements.

Reason for Space and Time
Space and Time are created as a result of the One (the Divine/the Absolute) separating itself so that it can as object experience itself as object.

The Status of an Object is Determined by the Consciousness of the Observer

Science has now come to the startling conclusion that the status of an object is actually determined by that which is observing it. Thus, if you observe an apparently broken machine and believe in the power of spirit to rectify it, and I do not, and that machine suddenly works because of your inner, consecrated effort, then the status of that object is determined not merely by its own status but by the consciousness of the observer. In my consciousness, it will be broken. In yours, it will be fixed.

Science's new conclusion that the observer determines that which is observed has turned scientific inquiry upside down baffling scientists of every stripe. (It was known in the Indian Upanishads thousands of years ago.) It is yet another indicator that the mere objective observation and measurement of phenomenon without regard to consciousness is simply folly.  

 



 


 

Space and Time: How They Came To Be

How Their PRINCIPLE Came To Be

Origins of Principle of Space and Time
The principle of time emerges when Being [Existence] extends itself subjectively to become Consciousness-Force. The principle of space emerges when Being extends itself objectively to become an object to its own Self-Conscious experience.

 

Infinite Universe, Spirit

Scientists now know that the material universe goes on infinitely in all directions. So does the Spirit and Its Consciousness, though it is beyond physical direction or movement, as it is timeless, spaceless Being.

 

How They ACTUALLY Came To Be

How the One Became the Many; and Space and Time Emerged

[The following is based on the Theory of Creation presented by Sri Aurobindo in 'The Life Divine' and elsewhere, and further expanded on by Sri Karmayogi.]

From time immemorial, individuals have asked themselves how this world came to be, and what was the process that enabled it to happen. Here is one perspective:

To begin with, there was/is an infinite, divine Source of all things; a timeless, spaceless, immutable, ineffable Being. We can think of it as the "One," since there were not yet distinct forces and forms in a manifest universe. I.e. there was not yet a "Many." Due to some inner compulsion, the One extended Itself to become the Many, which is in essence the distinct, unique forces and forms that will become the basis of Creation.

How then did the Many emerge from the One; i.e. the Creation from the Creator?

In the Source/Infinite consciousness are Real Ideas, which are possibilities It seeks to render as living realities; i.e. cosmic determinants that the Spirit seeks to make real in creation. Among them are spiritual aspects or qualities, including Oneness, Knowledge, Creativity, Beauty, Love, and Delight. There are also variations, combination, and subsets of these that the Divine seeks in its extension from the One to then Many.

Then how were/are the Real Ideas made real in the cosmos as unique forces and forms?

The Truth Consciousness, which Sri Aurobindo calls "Supermind" rendered through its own Comprehending capacity images of those Real Ideas. Or to put it another way, Comprehending Supermind imagined and envisioned distinct forces and forms that would embody these cosmic ideas and determinants.

At this point however, these imaginations have not been rendered real; as they are only a conception of separate formations. (We can compare this to the writer who has established characters, values and meaning, and plot in his mind, but has not yet committed them to paper.) However, through Supermind's Apprehending capacity these envisioned formations are rendered real as distinct entries in an emerging cosmos. I.e. Oneness, Knowledge, Creativity, Beauty, Love, Delight, et al become distinct forces and forms at the unseen universal plane.

How then did these imagined forms become real?

To become separate, distinct objects, Apprehending Supermind divided each of the previously envisioned attributes of Knowledge, Oneness, Creativity, Love, Delight, etc. and their infinite variations into triplicities in the form of subject - subject/object experience - object. E.g. the distinct possibility of the spiritual aspect of "Knowledge" is rendered into Knower - Knowing - Known. E.g., as a knowing being one knows that which is known. (Or to put it in words of our own experience. I as knower am knowing what is known.) Similarly, there is the triplicity of the lover (the subject) loving (experience) the beloved (object). And so forth for the myriad of cosmic determinates/spiritual qualities of the Infinite Divine. In essence, the One reality has now divided itself in various ways so that each subject can experience itself as object, thereby becoming the Many.

It should be noted that at this point there is no physical universe. Before that can come about, there needs to be a foundation for it's occurrence; which is in essence what we know of as space and time. Though the Infinite Source is beyond space and time -- it is spaceless and timeless -- a potential universe requires these as underpinning. How does that happen?  

When the triplicities of the cosmic determinates are established through Supermind's comprehending action, which is, in essence, how the spiritual aspects/determinants are made real as distinct forces and forms, space and time are created.

But why does this happen? To answer that we need to know more about the nature of space and time.

Sri Aurobindo and Sri Karmayogi tell us that space is created at the point where a form is able, from its own unique vantage point, to perceive other forces and forms. Space then is perceived as a sense of extension from one form's perspective to another's.

Then there is time, which can be thought of as an outgrowth of space. Time is created at the point where a form perceives one form, then another one, etc. in sequence, which generates the sense of movement in extension. The perception of movement in the extension of space is what we call time.

With the triplicities of subject - functioning - object occurring though the comprehending action of the Truth Consciousness, distinct forces and forms take shape. Though these are initially at the idea of force, power and knowledge, they eventually begin to take on properties of substance through the creation and dispersion of an essential Energy. As forms take on properties of substance, they more readily perceive other forms, creating the sense of extension which is space, as well as the sense of movement within the extension, which is time.

In essence, this is the process by which the One extends Itself and is rendered into the Many. The process begins with the rendering of Real Ideas/Cosmic Determinants of the Source Being into forces and forms as triplicities of subject, experience, object, through the comprehending and apprehending action of Truth Consciousness. This becomes the basis of space and time, as well as the further involution of the cosmos that will culminate in the material-based universe that we live in.

 

Apprehending Supermind Creates Triplicities of Cosmic Determinants; Space and Time are Born
Sachchidananda gives rise to eight fundamental determinants. In Supermind, these eight determinants each give rise to three aspects or expressions of itself -- subjective, objective and the experience or interaction between the two. In the Comprehending Supermind the object of knowledge and subject of knowledge are the same, but the apprehending Supermind creates time and space by splitting it into three so the One as subject can experience itself as object. We have said that Knowledge is the reflection of Chit. In Apprehending Supermind, Knowledge splits into three aspects -- the knower, the object of knowledge, and the act of knowing. Similarly, Will becomes the subject that wills, the object of the will and the act of willing. Beauty becomes the perceiver of beauty, the object of beauty, and the experience of beauty, and so on. (MSS)

 

Origins of Space and Time
The apprehending action of Supermind enables space and time.

 



 

Space and Time:  Energy

Continuum of Space and Time
Space and time are continuum of energy and substance.

 



Space and Time: and Matter

Perceptions of Space, Time, Matter, etc.

  • Matter and space are one; of the same energy. Matter is energy in motion, space is that energy at rest.

  • Mind sees spiritual substance as material substance through the senses, and mental substance through pure mind.

  • (Perception of) The part is only a product if mind's tendency to divide. The being, even the physical being is one.

  • There is no inner and outer when we move to the very highest consciousness.


Time and Space: In Everyday Life

General

Spirit Overcomes the Need for Time to Organize Life
Time is used by mind to organize life for one's own self, and for our relation with others and the environment. Spirit overcomes the need for time to organize our existence
; as it creates no time, or rather timelessness in the becomings of time.

Space and Time are Relative to Consciousness of Viewer
(Perceptions of) Space and time are relative to the level of the consciousness of the viewer.

 

Clock Time
Clock time is the means by which Man has enabled Mind to perceive movements within Space.

 

Overcoming

Overcoming Space
Capacity to wait for the world to come to one without trying to reach it is a capacity to overcome space. (MSS)

See Entries on the Nature of Space and Time for the Spiritual Individual

 


Space and Time: Other

Space
Space is the coexistence of things or of souls. (MSS)

The Present Can Affect the Past

Several years ago, a group of French scientists published an experiment indicating that what they did in the present could retroactively change events that already occurred in the past. It was another indicator of the true nature of time; that the past, present and future are not three divided aspects, as mind perceives it, but are one continuum of existence. Therefore, from any point in time, any other point can be affected.

Time, Variation, & Delight
Space and Time was created to create infinite variation of forms for infinite possibility of delight.

The Division of Time
Time that is continuous has been divided into past, present and future. Who has divided it? Why has it been divided? It is mind that has divided it as mind is the only instrument that can divide. Time is so divided because of the involution of knowledge into Ignorance. (MSS)

MSS Article on the Nature of Space and Time

The Nature of Time for the Spiritual Individual

 

To Be Parsed

On Space
Space is the self-extension of the Being/Spirit to hold its forms and objects.

Space is the self-extension of Being/Existence in the form of constant or persistent movements that give the appearance of stable forms.

The principle of space emerges when Being extends itself objectively to become an object to its own Self-Conscious experience.

Matter is energy in motion, space is that energy at rest.

Space is the Being/Spirit [Existence] looking at itself in essence and principle.

 

On Time
Time is Spirit looking at itself in essence and principle.

Spirit measuring its movement by its own extension is Time.

Time is the Being/Spirit looking at its own movement.

Time is Brahman self-extended for the deployment of the movement of self-power carrying forms and objects.

Time is the self-extension of Being/Existence in the form of changing movements.

Time is a subjective extension of consciousness.

Time is the self-extension of the Being/Spirit to deploy the power to hold forms and objects.

Space-Being; Time-Consciousness
Space represents Being; Time, consciousness.

Thoughts on the Nature of Time 

Time emerged from timelessness; from the timeless Infinite Divine.

Time is thus a form of timelessness.

Timelessness is thus imbedded, hidden in time; involved there.

When we evolve, timelessness comes out of time.

For example, through higher consciousness we evoke sudden good fortune, overcoming time.

Gradually the timelessness embedded in time rises to the surface through our evolution of consciousness.

We can also experience timelessness when we go within, such as when we meditate.

If we touch the deepest depths, our evolving soul and true selves within, we experience not only timelessness inside, but it consistently outside.

Space is extension. Time is movement in extension. Timelessness is instant movement in extension. Also, there extension disappears, as distance is overcome. It is timelessness in spacelessness.

Timelessness in time and spacelessness in space is experienced through meditation and soul within, and on the outside as life response.

The destiny of humanity is to experience all of these things as one thing.

 

Time and Timelessness
Movement in Time is a moveless point in Timelessness.  

Time is the objective of the Timeless that is subjective. Together they are the whole of Brahman the Spirit. (MSS)

Origins of Space and Time
Matter--Energy in Being becomes Time and Space in consciousness, obeying the rule of reversal of consciousness. This can be reduced to a formula or several formulas if by concentration mind is raised to consciousness and Being.


TO BE CATEGORIZED

 

 

Timelessness, Time

How Time is Born

Time is born when undifferentiated consciousness splits into subject and object.

 

Benefit of Bringing the Timeless into Time that Uplifts Space

Originally there was the Timeless. Then came the contrast where Time began. Now our Secret Goal is to bring the Timelessness into the Time oriented details and moments of our lives, thereby ennobling, uplifting, and enjoying the experience of Space.

(Constant Consecration -- i.e. opening to the spiritual Force that is increasingly in the atmosphere -- is the easiest and most direct way to make this happen.)

Further Comment: One day about 15 years ago I was driving through the California Central Valley, perhaps the most fertile, productive farmland in the world. Since the drive was in an endless straight line, with mountains in the distance, I decided to "space out" a bit. As I headed west toward the coast in a long-straightaway, I suddenly experienced timelessness. Not my own personal timelessness, but that Time had disappeared for everyone, for life on earth forever. It was as if I were in some future period when time had disappeared as a reality in the world for all sentient life.

I mentioned this powerful experience to Karmayogi, who thought it was wonderful. In addition, he made the point that I had made a key distinction in my experience. He reminded me that I had indicated that Time had disappeared for myself, society, and the world, but Space had not. He told me that this was an important distinction.

 

Experience of Eternal Now

Power of the Eternal Now Through Consecrated Effort

When you consecrate an act, past, present and future are altered. E.g. a negative thing that appeared to happen in the past is made to have never happened, or if it did, its negative effect is negated. It can also bring a benefit that would ordinarily happen in the distant future into the here and now. This indicates that True Time is undivided into past, present, and future, but rather there is only one continuous arc of time that you can access in the Eternal Now. Consecration, i.e. opening to the spiritual Force, the supramental power evokes that Triple Time Power for that which was focused on. It is to evoke Timelessness into the Ever-Present.

 

Earlier

Origins of, Moving Beyond Time

In the Indian tradition, time is born when there was a split into subject and object. Before that, there is timelessness, which is the ongoing status of the Infinite Divine.

When we move beyond that split in consciousness, we recapture that timelessness.

Moving within to the soul makes this possible. At that point, we overcome space-time, enabling instantaneous miraculousness -- i.e. sudden good fortune, in acts and events. It occurs similarly when we open to the spiritual Force.  (2009-2011 Q1)

  

Timelessness and Spacelessness from Various Planes

As you move into the other realms of existence, time and space are very different from that which we experience in the physical universe. They tend to evaporate. Even in the material world we observe, we can know timelessness and spacelessness in the time and space we dwell in. E.g., when we discover our evolving soul within, our mind expands into the spiritual dimensions, where we experience life in instantaneousness and timelessness. Opening to the Divine Mother's Force also enables such instantaneous miraculousness. (2009-2011 Q1)

 

The Present Can Affect the Past

Several years ago, a group of French scientists published an experiment indicating that what they did in the present could retroactively change events that already occurred in the past. It was another indicator of the true nature of time; that the past, present and future are not three divided aspects, as mind perceives it, but are one continuum of existence. Therefore, from any point in time, any other point can be affected. (2009-2011 Q1)

 

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In the third dimension of time, there is instantaneous miraculousness. (paraphrase of Karmayogi) (already copied) (2009-2011 Q1)

 

The Potential Future that is Gone

The future is past relative to a present that has gone by. I.e. the future is subjective to the moment, and when the moment of perceiving it passes, so does that potential future. (2009-2011 Q1)

 

Human Mind Can't Conceive Spacelessness & Timelessness of Universe; and the Reality

The human mind cannot conceive of the fact that the universe goes on forever infinitely in terms of space; and has no beginning, and has always existed and always will, in terms of time. That incomprehension of the mind is also there when it comes to perceiving the nature of the Reality that exceeds the universe, and yet includes it. (2009-2011 Q1)

 

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